Comments on: #38 - Coal Jump http://www.63days.com/38-coal-jump/ 63 Days Of My Life, In All Their Glory Fri, 21 Nov 2008 06:57:15 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: Rose http://www.63days.com/38-coal-jump/#comment-7078 Rose Tue, 24 Oct 2006 05:24:44 +0000 http://www.63days.com/38-coal-jump/#comment-7078 Hi again Allison Its me Rose I remember all of a sudden we all had to gather around a sheep and it was still alive we had to watch one of counclers put a something like a huge ice pick through its neck and it died I remember the face of the sheep till this day it had such a cute face I was sick to my stomach and my heart when I had to witness this not only that but then I had to takes its intestines out of the sheep and stuff it and made sausage with its intestines and then we had to cut the raw meat in pieces to be cooked on fire the whole day I was sitting there trying to get a bow drill but I didnt have correct spindle I needed I had my fire board and bow and string from my back back sleeping bag and as you know we only had one chance to collect spindles off the correct plant we were able to get them from and Im sure we were only around it 2 through the whole program anyways I was doomed when it came to me getting a fire with not the right material so all day I was pretending to get one but I knew I wasnt going to be able to umm but I still had to do the dirty work of the sheep kill I think I remember eating a carrot they gave me but I dont think anything else yes we had to watch and listen to the others who were able to get fire to be able to join the feast umm but I do remember after the day was over and we had to go to our laid out sleeping bags the counclers threw someones belongings over the mountain we were very high up devastated me and I remember a guy joined us a few day late at one point and they beat the pants off of him I felt so bad for him Dear God. Hi again Allison Its me Rose I remember all of a sudden we all had to gather around a sheep and it was still alive we had to watch one of counclers put a something like a huge ice pick through its neck and it died I remember the face of the sheep till this day it had such a cute face I was sick to my stomach and my heart when I had to witness this not only that but then I had to takes its intestines out of the sheep and stuff it and made sausage with its intestines and then we had to cut the raw meat in pieces to be cooked on fire the whole day I was sitting there trying to get a bow drill but I didnt have correct spindle I needed I had my fire board and bow and string from my back back sleeping bag and as you know we only had one chance to collect spindles off the correct plant we were able to get them from and Im sure we were only around it 2 through the whole program anyways I was doomed when it came to me getting a fire with not the right material so all day I was pretending to get one but I knew I wasnt going to be able to umm but I still had to do the dirty work of the sheep kill I think I remember eating a carrot they gave me but I dont think anything else yes we had to watch and listen to the others who were able to get fire to be able to join the feast umm but I do remember after the day was over and we had to go to our laid out sleeping bags the counclers threw someones belongings over the mountain we were very high up devastated me and I remember a guy joined us a few day late at one point and they beat the pants off of him I felt so bad for him Dear God.

]]> By: Aubrey http://www.63days.com/38-coal-jump/#comment-632 Aubrey Mon, 13 Jun 2005 20:06:10 +0000 http://www.63days.com/38-coal-jump/#comment-632 Do your parents know? Have they appologised for the hell they put you threw? My mom didn't listen to me when I told her about what my dad was doing.. Do they know? Have they at leasted appologised? Do your parents know? Have they appologised for the hell they put you threw?

My mom didn’t listen to me when I told her about what my dad was doing..

Do they know? Have they at leasted appologised?

]]> By: Alli http://www.63days.com/38-coal-jump/#comment-363 Alli Wed, 25 May 2005 14:30:05 +0000 http://www.63days.com/38-coal-jump/#comment-363 nope, we really weren't allowed to discuss this stuff with eachother. nope, we really weren’t allowed to discuss this stuff with eachother.

]]> By: anna http://www.63days.com/38-coal-jump/#comment-349 anna Wed, 25 May 2005 07:15:14 +0000 http://www.63days.com/38-coal-jump/#comment-349 what did the young boy do to be sent there? did you ever find out? what did the young boy do to be sent there? did you ever find out?

]]> By: Samantha http://www.63days.com/38-coal-jump/#comment-169 Samantha Sun, 15 May 2005 23:22:03 +0000 http://www.63days.com/38-coal-jump/#comment-169 I stumbled upon your story, and have not been able to stop reading it. I admire you for your courage and strength. I pray that God will be with you. I stumbled upon your story, and have not been able to stop reading it. I admire you for your courage and strength. I pray that God will be with you.

]]> By: Jazzy Be http://www.63days.com/38-coal-jump/#comment-167 Jazzy Be Sun, 15 May 2005 22:04:36 +0000 http://www.63days.com/38-coal-jump/#comment-167 Krap- Her parents may have thought they were doing what was best for her. Maybe they should have researched it better, but we have to keep in mind that "his" camps were put on a pedestal back then. Krap- Her parents may have thought they were doing what was best for her. Maybe they should have researched it better, but we have to keep in mind that “his” camps were put on a pedestal back then.

]]> By: Deb aka bobogrl http://www.63days.com/38-coal-jump/#comment-115 Deb aka bobogrl Fri, 13 May 2005 19:32:23 +0000 http://www.63days.com/38-coal-jump/#comment-115 Hey Ali, I'm glad to have found your site as well, as I dont normally read blogs. You have a wonderful talent for writing... it makes me feel as I were there with you, experiencing it for myself. I find it ironic that religious zealouts resort to such measures to "exorcise" or remove any bad behaviors. I realize most did not realize how drastic the programs were/are, but still, am glad you are shedding light on such a mentality that still allows abuse, especially on young people. I'm anxiously awaiting the rest of your story and think these would make a great addition to a life long novel when you are older. Hey Ali, I’m glad to have found your site as well, as I dont normally read blogs.
You have a wonderful talent for writing… it makes me feel as I were there with you, experiencing it for myself.
I find it ironic that religious zealouts resort to such measures to “exorcise” or remove any bad behaviors. I realize most did not realize how drastic the programs were/are, but still, am glad you are shedding light on such a mentality that still allows abuse, especially on young people.
I’m anxiously awaiting the rest of your story and think these would make a great addition to a life long novel when you are older.

]]> By: kraptastic http://www.63days.com/38-coal-jump/#comment-111 kraptastic Fri, 13 May 2005 18:58:18 +0000 http://www.63days.com/38-coal-jump/#comment-111 Oops sorry Ali, i finally read all of it. That girl natalie sucked! I wanna know what those A-hole camp counselors are doing now? Do you talk to your parents? I would hate them forever! Oops sorry Ali, i finally read all of it. That girl natalie sucked! I wanna know what those A-hole camp counselors are doing now? Do you talk to your parents? I would hate them forever!

]]> By: Kamea_8 http://www.63days.com/38-coal-jump/#comment-109 Kamea_8 Fri, 13 May 2005 04:23:12 +0000 http://www.63days.com/38-coal-jump/#comment-109 This is so sad, I'm sorry you had to go through this. I think back to 1990, and I was in pre-K, going about my life, while you were going through hell. Again, I'm so sorry, I hope they all got what they deserved. This is so sad, I’m sorry you had to go through this. I think back to 1990, and I was in pre-K, going about my life, while you were going through hell. Again, I’m so sorry, I hope they all got what they deserved.

]]> By: Christine http://www.63days.com/38-coal-jump/#comment-100 Christine Thu, 12 May 2005 20:05:32 +0000 http://www.63days.com/38-coal-jump/#comment-100 It must be very painful to keep writing but please don't stop. I wonder if the program started out with good intentions and hired a bunch of animals or did a bunch of animals try to make a buck. Bastards. It must be very painful to keep writing but please don’t stop. I wonder if the program started out with good intentions and hired a bunch of animals or did a bunch of animals try to make a buck. Bastards.

]]> By: Jennifer http://www.63days.com/38-coal-jump/#comment-99 Jennifer Thu, 12 May 2005 19:45:53 +0000 http://www.63days.com/38-coal-jump/#comment-99 Alli, I have read your entire blog and I am so stunned and sickened that this happened to you. I hope that you have found peace and maybe this is a way to let some of the pain go. My heart goes out to you. You are an amazing person. Thank you for sharing your story. Part of me wants to know more, but the other part is just wishing it was not true. I do believe you. As I read it, I can imagain each sceen that you tell so vividly. All I can say is I am so sorry! I voted for you! It is no contest! This is the best Blog site! Alli,

I have read your entire blog and I am so stunned and sickened that this happened to you. I hope that you have found peace and maybe this is a way to let some of the pain go. My heart goes out to you. You are an amazing person. Thank you for sharing your story. Part of me wants to know more, but the other part is just wishing it was not true. I do believe you.

As I read it, I can imagain each sceen that you tell so vividly. All I can say is I am so sorry!

I voted for you! It is no contest! This is the best Blog site!

]]> By: Alli http://www.63days.com/38-coal-jump/#comment-97 Alli Thu, 12 May 2005 19:07:51 +0000 http://www.63days.com/38-coal-jump/#comment-97 Its ok you guys...I'm alive and happy...not everyone made it out. Its ok you guys…I’m alive and happy…not everyone made it out.

]]> By: Robin http://www.63days.com/38-coal-jump/#comment-96 Robin Thu, 12 May 2005 18:26:39 +0000 http://www.63days.com/38-coal-jump/#comment-96 I discovered you yesterday and read until I couldn't stomach anymore. I just finished all the installments. I think the only way I was able to come back today is to convince myself that this never really happened. Then I googled Cartisano. I'm.so.sorry. I discovered you yesterday and read until I couldn’t stomach anymore. I just finished all the installments. I think the only way I was able to come back today is to convince myself that this never really happened. Then I googled Cartisano.

I’m.so.sorry.

]]> By: pamela a/k/a Pooma9OO http://www.63days.com/38-coal-jump/#comment-95 pamela a/k/a Pooma9OO Thu, 12 May 2005 18:12:09 +0000 http://www.63days.com/38-coal-jump/#comment-95 I started this story last night and haven't been able to take my eyes off of it today. I'm a slow reader, so this is pretty fast for me. This is a very touching story and I'm sure you are a better person because of it. I voted for you. I started this story last night and haven’t been able to take my eyes off of it today. I’m a slow reader, so this is pretty fast for me. This is a very touching story and I’m sure you are a better person because of it.

I voted for you.

]]> By: Rebecca aka aerosmithgrrl http://www.63days.com/38-coal-jump/#comment-93 Rebecca aka aerosmithgrrl Thu, 12 May 2005 17:46:08 +0000 http://www.63days.com/38-coal-jump/#comment-93 Your story has been on my mind since I started reading it on Tuesday. How society could let this go on is beyond me, could people not tell by your physical appearance that something was wrong there. Uh, it makes me so mad knowing that creep Steve Cartisano isn't behind bars right now. I'm lookin forward to reading more. Your story has been on my mind since I started reading it on Tuesday. How society could let this go on is beyond me, could people not tell by your physical appearance that something was wrong there. Uh, it makes me so mad knowing that creep Steve Cartisano isn’t behind bars right now. I’m lookin forward to reading more.

]]> By: kraptastic http://www.63days.com/38-coal-jump/#comment-91 kraptastic Thu, 12 May 2005 17:11:17 +0000 http://www.63days.com/38-coal-jump/#comment-91 I havent gotten any work done since i been reading this. I cant believe you actually had to go through this and im really sorry it happened to you. Did u ever find out about what happened to that girl Stephanie? Are u and Natalie still friends? I cant believe that they let stuff like this go on in these boot camps! Thank u so much for sharing your experiences. I havent gotten any work done since i been reading this. I cant believe you actually had to go through this and im really sorry it happened to you. Did u ever find out about what happened to that girl Stephanie? Are u and Natalie still friends? I cant believe that they let stuff like this go on in these boot camps! Thank u so much for sharing your experiences.

]]> By: Mbl1991Leasha http://www.63days.com/38-coal-jump/#comment-86 Mbl1991Leasha Thu, 12 May 2005 08:48:54 +0000 http://www.63days.com/38-coal-jump/#comment-86 I also heard about your story on the MTV message board, and I have been up all night reading it. I really don't know what to say, cuz what you went through was so ridiculous. I also heard about your story on the MTV message board, and I have been up all night reading it. I really don’t know what to say, cuz what you went through was so ridiculous.

]]> By: the queen http://www.63days.com/38-coal-jump/#comment-79 the queen Thu, 12 May 2005 02:49:21 +0000 http://www.63days.com/38-coal-jump/#comment-79 I love that you got a new lay out for this, the story you are telling is powerful and you are effecting so many lives now. You are still amazing me with your strength and the way you manage to put it all into words so beautifully. Girl I got love for ya! Keep telling, we will all keep reading:) I love that you got a new lay out for this, the story you are telling is powerful and you are effecting so many lives now. You are still amazing me with your strength and the way you manage to put it all into words so beautifully. Girl I got love for ya!
Keep telling, we will all keep reading:)

]]> By: Marisa aka 5_5_Brwn_Eyes http://www.63days.com/38-coal-jump/#comment-77 Marisa aka 5_5_Brwn_Eyes Thu, 12 May 2005 02:19:36 +0000 http://www.63days.com/38-coal-jump/#comment-77 Yes I see a lot of people from the message board here. Kentuckygal told us about your blog and a bunch of us have been reading it all day. It is so horrible that a place like this actually exists. I'll be patiently waiting for your next entries to see how this all ends. I couldn't imagine having to go through something like that. Yes I see a lot of people from the message board here. Kentuckygal told us about your blog and a bunch of us have been reading it all day. It is so horrible that a place like this actually exists. I’ll be patiently waiting for your next entries to see how this all ends. I couldn’t imagine having to go through something like that.

]]> By: Jstar http://www.63days.com/38-coal-jump/#comment-74 Jstar Thu, 12 May 2005 01:26:53 +0000 http://www.63days.com/38-coal-jump/#comment-74 thank you again for another great entry. That last line stuck. I think about that all the time. Not just about your situation, but of my own too. I weep for those who have had to endure these types of programs. I weep for those who have desperate parents who reach for anything they can find, just to feel that little piece of relief. I know how powerful that can be, but god there has to be another way. thank you again for another great entry.
That last line stuck. I think about that all the time. Not just about your situation, but of my own too. I weep for those who have had to endure these types of programs. I weep for those who have desperate parents who reach for anything they can find, just to feel that little piece of relief. I know how powerful that can be, but god there has to be another way.

]]> By: Diane aka 2OLD2BE http://www.63days.com/38-coal-jump/#comment-71 Diane aka 2OLD2BE Wed, 11 May 2005 23:12:33 +0000 http://www.63days.com/38-coal-jump/#comment-71 I found out about this site on the MTV message boards. You've become a bit of a star there! I see that some of the members from MTV have posted here, and I am gladly joining them. I too voted for you. I was truly affected by your words, and feel you deserve whatever good can be obtained through sharing your heartwrenching story. I wish you the very best of luck in all you do, and sincerely hope you win the contest. God willing your words will help to heal not only yourself, but others as well. Good luck, and please know that you are making a difference. God bless! Diane, Wisconsin I found out about this site on the MTV message boards. You’ve become a bit of a star there! I see that some of the members from MTV have posted here, and I am gladly joining them.

I too voted for you. I was truly affected by your words, and feel you deserve whatever good can be obtained through sharing your heartwrenching story. I wish you the very best of luck in all you do, and sincerely hope you win the contest.

God willing your words will help to heal not only yourself, but others as well. Good luck, and please know that you are making a difference. God bless!
Diane, Wisconsin

]]> By: Dianna http://www.63days.com/38-coal-jump/#comment-70 Dianna Wed, 11 May 2005 23:01:28 +0000 http://www.63days.com/38-coal-jump/#comment-70 Man that murdock is just a sick jerk. UGH. Big hugs alli Dianna Man that murdock is just a sick jerk. UGH.
Big hugs alli
Dianna

]]> By: kentuckygal http://www.63days.com/38-coal-jump/#comment-69 kentuckygal Wed, 11 May 2005 21:12:03 +0000 http://www.63days.com/38-coal-jump/#comment-69 Ali~ I couldn't stop reading until I got to the end. I can't believe this stuff actually happend to you, yet I know you are telling the truth, and it's very very sad!! I will wait for you new entry everyday and I voted for you :) I hope that today you are a very strong woman and are able to help others with your story. Ali~
I couldn’t stop reading until I got to the end. I can’t believe this stuff actually happend to you, yet I know you are telling the truth, and it’s very very sad!! I will wait for you new entry everyday and I voted for you :)
I hope that today you are a very strong woman and are able to help others with your story.

]]> By: queeniefosho http://www.63days.com/38-coal-jump/#comment-66 queeniefosho Wed, 11 May 2005 19:49:21 +0000 http://www.63days.com/38-coal-jump/#comment-66 i started reading your website today and couldn't quit reading until i got to the last entry. i am sitting at my desk in tears over what you had to go through. when i was in high school there were a couple of guys i knew that got sent to places in utah (maybe the same, i don't know). one day they just weren't at school anymore. i started reading your website today and couldn’t quit reading until i got to the last entry. i am sitting at my desk in tears over what you had to go through. when i was in high school there were a couple of guys i knew that got sent to places in utah (maybe the same, i don’t know). one day they just weren’t at school anymore.

]]> By: Alli http://www.63days.com/38-coal-jump/#comment-64 Alli Wed, 11 May 2005 19:31:03 +0000 http://www.63days.com/38-coal-jump/#comment-64 I know Caren baby...I know. Tnak you Rebecca...and Stoneygirl. I know Caren baby…I know.

Tnak you Rebecca…and Stoneygirl.

]]> By: Caren http://www.63days.com/38-coal-jump/#comment-59 Caren Wed, 11 May 2005 18:17:05 +0000 http://www.63days.com/38-coal-jump/#comment-59 Ugh. Ugh.

]]> By: Rebecca Pritchard http://www.63days.com/38-coal-jump/#comment-56 Rebecca Pritchard Wed, 11 May 2005 17:30:25 +0000 http://www.63days.com/38-coal-jump/#comment-56 Dear Allie, I am so sorry for all you had to go through. I hope and pray that these bastard "counselors" will get their own personal hell. I hope that writing about your experience is healing for you. I also hope that after reading this, no self respecting parent will ever put their child thru hell like this. I know I never will. I wish you peace, and joy. Dear Allie,
I am so sorry for all you had to go through. I hope and pray that these bastard “counselors” will get their own personal hell.
I hope that writing about your experience is healing for you.
I also hope that after reading this, no self respecting parent will ever put their child thru hell like this. I know I never will.
I wish you peace, and joy.

]]> By: StoneyGrl http://www.63days.com/38-coal-jump/#comment-55 StoneyGrl Wed, 11 May 2005 17:09:14 +0000 http://www.63days.com/38-coal-jump/#comment-55 I was introduced to your site yesterday (5/10/05), and I read entry after entry for 2 hours ... My heart was racing, my stomach turning, and I cryed. I can not imagine surviving what you went thru Alli ... I wonder if you have anything to do with your parents ? Lord knows I wouldn't !!!! I wish you all the best in life ... and I'm so sorry that you had to go thru this. Much Love ... :-) I was introduced to your site yesterday (5/10/05), and I read entry after entry for 2 hours …
My heart was racing, my stomach turning, and I cryed.
I can not imagine surviving what you went thru Alli …

I wonder if you have anything to do with your parents ? Lord knows I wouldn’t !!!!

I wish you all the best in life … and I’m so sorry that you had to go thru this.

Much Love …
:-)

]]> By: Crimson http://www.63days.com/38-coal-jump/#comment-53 Crimson Wed, 11 May 2005 16:41:36 +0000 http://www.63days.com/38-coal-jump/#comment-53 My goodness. I hope that what goes around comes around and these counselors get what they deserve. I cannot believe how cruel they were to all of you. This just seems to be such a stuggle for all of you. Murdock makes me sick to my stomach! He is vile!! My goodness. I hope that what goes around comes around and these counselors get what they deserve.

I cannot believe how cruel they were to all of you.

This just seems to be such a stuggle for all of you.
Murdock makes me sick to my stomach! He is vile!!

]]> By: jes http://www.63days.com/38-coal-jump/#comment-50 jes Wed, 11 May 2005 14:09:14 +0000 http://www.63days.com/38-coal-jump/#comment-50 last night i prayed for you, and for these counselors. i prayed that God would smite them. :) Seriously. i'm anxious to know the rest of the story. last night i prayed for you, and for these counselors. i prayed that God would smite them. :) Seriously. i’m anxious to know the rest of the story.

]]> By: Nightmare http://www.63days.com/38-coal-jump/#comment-49 Nightmare Wed, 11 May 2005 12:57:32 +0000 http://www.63days.com/38-coal-jump/#comment-49 the more I read the angrier I get. the more I read the angrier I get.

]]> By: Redd http://www.63days.com/38-coal-jump/#comment-47 Redd Wed, 11 May 2005 12:50:14 +0000 http://www.63days.com/38-coal-jump/#comment-47 God willing, all of these "counselors" have gotten their come-uppance. Do you know what happened to any of them? God willing, all of these “counselors” have gotten their come-uppance. Do you know what happened to any of them?

]]> By: Kate http://www.63days.com/38-coal-jump/#comment-46 Kate Wed, 11 May 2005 11:15:24 +0000 http://www.63days.com/38-coal-jump/#comment-46 Jesus Christ...so by mentioning he hit your dinner with a truck, that for me, would hve spoiled my appetite right then and there! (Yes I am aware deer do not grow on trees, but still!) So I think, if I had been in your shoes, he would have ruined my "reward" right then and there, and probably succeeded in making no one happy that night. What a disgusting excuse for a human this guy is. Jesus Christ…so by mentioning he hit your dinner with a truck, that for me, would hve spoiled my appetite right then and there! (Yes I am aware deer do not grow on trees, but still!) So I think, if I had been in your shoes, he would have ruined my “reward” right then and there, and probably succeeded in making no one happy that night. What a disgusting excuse for a human this guy is.

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